Post Speech Thread

It was an amazing show tonight. But I have to say, as theatrical as it was, it had an undercurrent of genuine emotion, far more than 4 years ago. It was also unabashedly liberal and Barack was tough as hell on McCain.

More later as I process this incredible night. We're heading to the "blogger bash."

What did you think?



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it was a great speech (none / 0)

but I'm not happy that they buried Gore's speech. Some commenter at Open Left pointed out that they slotted him in so that his speech was ending just at 9:00 when lots of people would have been switching over from whatever other show they were watching.


See if Saxby Chambliss is helping you.
by desmoinesdem on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:21:07 AM EST

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Best speech I have ever seen.

In one week, the Democrats have given me the two best speeches ever. And the only reason it wasn't three consecutive "best speech ever" was that Hillary went before Bill (and I liked hers a bit more).

It wasn't the most quotable speech in history and it didn't have one line that will forever resonate, but, in today's 30-second media, to give a 45-minute epic speech that holds the audience's attention is nothing short of astounding.


by TCQuad on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:23:58 AM EST

I am so proud of my party tonight.... (2.00 / 2)

I was literally BORN a democrat....

But, I don't think I have ever really owned the party like my mom did.

FDR was her hero,She thought FDR saved America AND her....and John Kennedy was her contemporary.

As I have said here, my first memories of politics were doorbelling with my mom for JFK.

Seeing an Irish Catholic as President, for a kid whose grandparent only spoke gaelic was the fufillment of her dream.

She never really was interested in politics after JFK was killed, but she always voted.

Tonight, on the anniversary of MLK's great speech, my party nominteed a candidate NOT because of the color of his skin but because of the content of his character.

Tonight, I think I am as proud of my party
as my mom was when Kennedy was nominated.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:28:00 AM EST

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I appreciated all the progressive language and framing.  Repeated calls to empathy and responsibility while simultaneously setting the frame that McCain is "misguided" and "out of touch" which are actually subconscious frames to tell people he's too old and without the virility to be a President.  It's like this speech was written by George Lakoff himself.


$439Billion spent on the US Military and still no universal health care.
by jlars on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:28:32 AM EST

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heh, good referance


by notedgeways on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:51:48 AM EST
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I honestly feel like I was watching history being made tonight.

Every time the camera cut to Joe Biden's grinning face, he just had this look like, "My God, how did I get on this rocket ship?"

Amazing.  Perfect night in terms of weather.  The decision to move the speech to Mile High Stadium was genius, pure genius.  No way this can be topped.


by Will Graham on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:29:32 AM EST

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Yes, and remember, there were some rightwing ministers who asked their congregants to Pray for Rain for Obama's speech.

Evidently, they have a little retooling of their idea that God is a Republican.


On Nov 4th, we elected "the smart guy" and the world celebrated!
by WashStateBlue on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:33:06 AM EST
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Maybe global warming is having a chaotic impact on prayer, too.


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:37:36 AM EST
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Maybe God's going to punish Denver with a drought instead?


by TCQuad on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:32:22 AM EST
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The move to the stadium fits with a lot of what we've seen from Obama -- he'll take a calculated risk if there's a high payoff. Ivesco Field was a risk: it's easy to spin it as hubris, it could've lacked the same atmosphere as a smaller "tight" venue, it was fairly expensive, created a mess of security hassles, might well have annoyed the press (having to duplicate facilities), etc.

On the other hand, the payoff was huge. Obama's team had every reason to believe they could overcome every one of the risk factors, so they took the bet.

There's been a lot of commentary about Obama sometimes just playing out the clock. Sometimes that's the right thing to do. But sometimes you've got to ante up and take some calculated risks, and it's refreshing to see a candidate who'll take some risks and go for the big payoff.


No Way. No How. No McCain-Palin!
by Texas Gray Wolf on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:10:34 AM EST
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I've been here in Denver at the convention all week, and just got back from Barack's speech.  I don't work in politics, but I've been hobnobbing with some real inner circle types who swear that McCain will announce Rob Portman as his running mate tomorrow.

I don't like this development.  Portman is from Ohio and is popular there, and and he's young and well-spoken.  I was hoping for Mittens or even better a wingnut loony like Jindal.  

I thought the Dems put on a brilliant convention, though.  Obama's speech gets an A+ from me.


by JK47 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:55:25 AM EST

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I'm guessing the take-away line is, 'It's not because John McCain doesn't care, it's because John McCain doesn't get it.'


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 12:58:50 AM EST

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It fits directly into the narrative that's been played. It's really brilliant.


by TCQuad on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:33:36 AM EST
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I think what made the speech great was the context.  I mean, here's the box the GOP put Obama in: you have to give a great speech, but if you give a great speech, that only goes to show that you only know how to make great speeches!  Obama had to prove simultaneously that he can be an inspiring leader and that he is a candidate of substance with real policies, and he met the challenge.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:09:00 AM EST

Excellent speech (none / 0)

Good, Dems have really learnt from  yrs ago. If you agree with every policy  with your opponent, then people wonder why not elect the opponent.
It started with Hillary, but in the last 3 days the Dems have clearly contrasted them with Republicans. On almost every issue that I could think of, Obama pointed the fundamental philosophical distance between the R team and D team.

(I do wish he had dwelled a little bit on why Dem party is the all-inclusive party and a bit on immigration; but I can let that pass).

The only sentence in the speech that might come back to haunt him--
``If you do not have a record on, then you try to scare the voters away from voting for your opponent.''

Otherwise, we have seen a much better politician than we saw in January. Which means he is a really quick learner? This will bode him well come next January.


by ann0nymous on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:22:13 AM EST

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Yeah, that was my only "wince" moment.

But, on the whole, he brought a big-game speech to the biggest venue.


by TCQuad on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:30:23 AM EST
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It about 0030 Friday and I am listening to President Pre-Elect Obama speech for the second time.  He gave us straight talk from the heart.  In 1968, some folk believed that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was not got for our county.  However, without Dr. King's leadership, our civil liberties and fundamental rights would not exist in our country as we know it.  Just as with Dr. King, some folk will not support (vote) Barack Obama.  In retrospect, just as the results of Dr. King's work continues to resonate throughout our country well after 40 years, Obama's leadership in The Whitehouse will produce similar results.  His legacy will thrive well after his presidency.
However, I do have major concerns, since many people within my culture have been "flip-boned" by African-American leaders such as US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.  There are some aspects of life in America that is going unaddressed:
1.    Our justice system, especially family court, is broken;
2.    Lack of government common-sense and oversight breeds corruption at all levels of government;
3.    US Oil intake and distribution, as well as gasoline refinement, should be solely operated by the government and capitalism / privatization totally removed from the equation;
4.    Overt employment disparities are at shameful, immoral, and disgusting levels;
Those are just a few things that we did not hear in his speech, but overall President Pre-Elect Obama was right on point.
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by obligated74 on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 01:23:51 AM EST

Brilliant Speech (2.00 / 1)

Extraordinary delivery
Inclusive and incisive content
Once again, following days or weeks of when will Obama...at the right time, with the right words, he hit the ball out of the park.

That was the best of FDR, Harry Truman, Bill Clinton, JFK, MLKjr and Hillary clinton in one package by a leader who I could - with pride and confidence - call President Obama. I watched a brave, visionary, intelligent and very aware leaders emerge from the primary process with enhanced stature, the support and encouragement of giants, and a laserlike focus and belief in a vision for the type of change America needs - now.  


by Jeter on Fri Aug 29, 2008 at 02:16:25 AM EST


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